I have a doggie issue

Honey, I prayed for your husband and you and even the dogs and the neighbor (that she will grow as a person and become a better steward of these animals) because I truly believe that God loves all living creatures.

That is a really great prayer Karen, thanks!
The woman is still trying hard to get the puppies back. The rescue lady has hooked up with a lawyer who also runs a rescue. If she proceeds trying to get them back, it looks like it may be through the courts. The lawyer also has some national connection he is talking to about the other two dogs. He has said to hold off on calling local authorities until we hear what he finds out. I have an appt at my vet in just a little while, for another of my dogs. I am going to see about getting the vet notes to send to the rescue, along with pictures I took. This lady keeps telling so many lies, she is digging a deeper and deeper hole for herself. It is looking more and more like she was setting up a puppy mill to me. She may just have been moving one from another place or starting over. Turns out puppy mill owners do that all the time (sell out and start over). My head is swimming with information I am getting, but I think we may have busted this up just in time. Off to the vet now, have a great day yall.

I swear this dang thing gets worse by the day. The people can't come up with proof they own the dogs, so now they are trying to find out who I am and come after me. It is now being said that the woman's sister is a cop and her mom works for the city. The animal control officer, who can't come out here to the country, claims he already has my name and those people will have it soon too. The vet's office says they have not told anyone my name. The rescue now says they may have to give the dogs back to keep me out of trouble. It may all be a bluff, but I can't let those dogs go back. I may have to risk being sued or charged with who knows what? I have a headache that won't quit, wonder why

Have you contacted the State Humane Society?
http://www.hsmo.org/m_animalabuse/reportabuse.php



Report Animal Abuse, Neglect or Animals in Distress



If you suspect an animal is being abused or neglected, contact the Humane Society of Missouri Rescues and Investigations Department with the following information:

Address (or detailed directions to location) where animal(s) can be found
Detailed description of neglect or abuse
By law, allegations of physical abuse require a witness name and contact number, which remain confidential.
Report abuse or neglect by phone: (314) 647-4400

The rescue should not need to give the dogs back... thats insane..
apparently so is the animal control person....

Check your state laws on animal abuse......

Honey if all else fails; contact your local news stations, and newspapers, to "report how soft your town’s law enforcement is on animal abuse/neglect.
Most authorities are antsy about theses things because of the national attention that Michael Vick got for his dog fighting activities.
I realize that is a stretch but people are more sensitive to animal cruelty now than they’ve ever been.

I think that's excellent advice Scar!!!

Honey-Hang in there! This will all work out, and it will be fine. If they can't prove they own the dogs, how can they come after you? Or for that matter, what does it matter to law enforcement. Possession is 99% of the law!

I have reported them to our state humane society and Pita has been contacted too. The newspaper here is very rinky dink and there is no tv station. What we call local tv, comes from Springfield, 100 miles away.
Today she was able to have her vet identitfy them. He is in the same practice with my vet, but they have two offices. Anyway, that vet told the rescue they are hers, so now they feel they have to return them and we can persue it with the Humane society or whatever. I have a call in to my vet now to see what he says about all of this. The woman at the rescue is being harrassed and everyone is afraid now. They say I committed no crime, so I won't be charged. However, if the owner has been given my name, I can expect lots of trouble. Most likey I will end up with my dogs shot. That is how people here do things. This woman's property is next to mine and all they have to do is come through the woods and they have a clear shot. My dogs won't even have to leave our yard and they could be in danger. This may sound like I am just freaking out, and I am, but this stuff happens in the Ozarks all the time. It is well know that if your dogs get in the field with cows they will be shot and ask questions later. It was one of the first things people told me when we moved here - dogs get shot all the time so watch yours. Also it turns out her sister is a cop, so I guess I can expect to start being pulled over and other hassles.
I thank you all for listening and supporting me. I just feel so sad to have let those dogs down. I promised them I was sending them to a good home and I broke that promise. That breaks my heart

Ok, I am much calmer now. I spoke to the vet and he assured me he didn't let my name slip, these people are just blowing smoke saying they have my name. However, I am not calmer about the dogs, they are going to be returned tomorrow. I feel like my poor husband suffered that trip now for nothing too dangit!
Anyway, I am going to call the humane society again and talk to them with more details. May not be able to until Mon though. I am also planning to work on a liberation plan, so to speak. They could get out on their own again even, they have even got out or the kennel at the rescue already. They are smart dogs! The lady from the rescue says if I can get them again, then she will take them and we won't tell anyone. I am not giving up though. Sorry about my freak out posts, I am an emotional person

You are my hero for what you have done already!!! Best wishes that everything works out!

Thank you. I don't feel like a hero tonight, I feel more like a heel. I am trying to look at it like all things happen for a reason. Maybe this will work out for the best somehow. We can't always see the answer right away, but sooner or later one usually shows up. Just a little bit ago I decided I better stop feeling sorry for myself and remember the lesson another dog taught me. That is my dog Foxy. I rescued her a few years ago. I was driving down a dirt road when I saw a little dog near an abandoned house. I went and got food and water and drove back. When she saw me, she ran under the house, then popped her head up through a hole in the floor. She wouldn't look at me, but watched from the corner or her eye as I put down the food and water. I stood there waiting for her to come over to eat, but she didn't move. She just started to shake. I realized she was shaking because she was so hungry, but too afraid to come near me. So I left and went to my van to watch. She then came out and ate. I decided to leave her alone and come back the next day. The same thing happened again. In fact, it kept happening like for weeks on end. I thought I would never be able to get her and just have to keep feeding her like that forever. I kept praying about it and I felt like the answer was to have faith and keep doing what you know to do, which was keep feeding the dog. After 5 months of that, one day she suddenly made it clear she wanted to make friends. I was able to pet her a bit that day, but just a bit. I sat in the grass and she sat near me for a while. She really didn't want me to leave that day,but wouldn't let me pick her up, nor would she get in the van. However,the next day she let me pet her and then decided to let me take her home. She is an amazing part of our family now. So I like to think that Foxy taught me to have faith, even when you can't see how things can work out, have faith, and do what you know to do.
So now that I have stopped freaking out, I will just do what I know to do and have faith it will work out in the end somehow.

I was part of a "liberation " once. We were lucky and it all worked out well.
Foxy was meant to be yours, clearly. You are a wonderful and loving person...
The rescue should not have to give back those dogs... Rescue means remove from harms way. It makes me angry and I have to wonder.

Honey wrote:Thank you. I don't feel like a hero tonight, I feel more like a heel. I am trying to look at it like all things happen for a reason. Maybe this will work out for the best somehow. We can't always see the answer right away, but sooner or later one usually shows up. Just a little bit ago I decided I better stop feeling sorry for myself and remember the lesson another dog taught me. That is my dog Foxy. I rescued her a few years ago. I was driving down a dirt road when I saw a little dog near an abandoned house. I went and got food and water and drove back. When she saw me, she ran under the house, then popped her head up through a hole in the floor. She wouldn't look at me, but watched from the corner or her eye as I put down the food and water. I stood there waiting for her to come over to eat, but she didn't move. She just started to shake. I realized she was shaking because she was so hungry, but too afraid to come near me. So I left and went to my van to watch. She then came out and ate. I decided to leave her alone and come back the next day. The same thing happened again. In fact, it kept happening like for weeks on end. I thought I would never be able to get her and just have to keep feeding her like that forever. I kept praying about it and I felt like the answer was to have faith and keep doing what you know to do, which was keep feeding the dog. After 5 months of that, one day she suddenly made it clear she wanted to make friends. I was able to pet her a bit that day, but just a bit. I sat in the grass and she sat near me for a while. She really didn't want me to leave that day,but wouldn't let me pick her up, nor would she get in the van. However,the next day she let me pet her and then decided to let me take her home. She is an amazing part of our family now. So I like to think that Foxy taught me to have faith, even when you can't see how things can work out, have faith, and do what you know to do.
So now that I have stopped freaking out, I will just do what I know to do and have faith it will work out in the end somehow.

Umm...Honey you just made me cry...

Me, too.

Have faith. Keep doing what you can do. We will pray for you.

I am praying and hoping that the right thing will be done.

That rescue should not be returning the dog.

i remember that whole incident with Ellen. And then the Vicks thing. Animals are making the news more often lately.

I am hoping that the right thing will be done.

Just keep having faith.